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	<title>Comments on: Ryanair is an analogue brand in a digital world and must change</title>
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		<title>By: The fail trail - the do's and don'ts when a social media PR crises hits [infographics] &#124; The Wall Blog</title>
		<link>http://wallblog.co.uk/2012/09/07/ryanair-is-an-analogue-brand-in-a-digital-world-and-must-change/comment-page-1/#comment-49997</link>
		<dc:creator>The fail trail - the do's and don'ts when a social media PR crises hits [infographics] &#124; The Wall Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] horsemeat, Femfresh, Starbucks, Waitrose, McDonalds, Gap, Qantas or Ryanair the archetypal &#8220;analogue brand in a digital world&#8221;. It is a long [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] horsemeat, Femfresh, Starbucks, Waitrose, McDonalds, Gap, Qantas or Ryanair the archetypal &#8220;analogue brand in a digital world&#8221;. It is a long [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Twitter is an editorial medium and brands must get tone of voice right &#124; The Wall Blog</title>
		<link>http://wallblog.co.uk/2012/09/07/ryanair-is-an-analogue-brand-in-a-digital-world-and-must-change/comment-page-1/#comment-49248</link>
		<dc:creator>Twitter is an editorial medium and brands must get tone of voice right &#124; The Wall Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Twitter can be transformative. It can give brands the chance to take control of the situation even in a crises. If I were Ryanair&#8217;s PR boss, I would be grabbing social by the horns and seeing how I could turn it around. It can be done. I&#8217;ve said it before, but Ryanair is &#8220;an analogue brand in a digital world&#8221;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Twitter can be transformative. It can give brands the chance to take control of the situation even in a crises. If I were Ryanair&#8217;s PR boss, I would be grabbing social by the horns and seeing how I could turn it around. It can be done. I&#8217;ve said it before, but Ryanair is &#8220;an analogue brand in a digital world&#8221;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: No such thing as ‘bad publicity’? &#124; Rewired PR</title>
		<link>http://wallblog.co.uk/2012/09/07/ryanair-is-an-analogue-brand-in-a-digital-world-and-must-change/comment-page-1/#comment-32535</link>
		<dc:creator>No such thing as ‘bad publicity’? &#124; Rewired PR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 09:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The ‘rant’ was of course actually not a rant at all and was, I would assume, carefully thought about, in line with O’Leary’s outspoken, ‘us against the world’ PR strategy (more of his memorable quotes can be found here). However I’m of the opinion that this kind of strategy whilst at one point may have worked, with the instantaneous and very public two-way communication brought about by social media, is in need of a review. As @gordonmacmillan’s blog suggests; it’s time to listen, and engage. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The ‘rant’ was of course actually not a rant at all and was, I would assume, carefully thought about, in line with O’Leary’s outspoken, ‘us against the world’ PR strategy (more of his memorable quotes can be found here). However I’m of the opinion that this kind of strategy whilst at one point may have worked, with the instantaneous and very public two-way communication brought about by social media, is in need of a review. As @gordonmacmillan’s blog suggests; it’s time to listen, and engage. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Stow</title>
		<link>http://wallblog.co.uk/2012/09/07/ryanair-is-an-analogue-brand-in-a-digital-world-and-must-change/comment-page-1/#comment-32343</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Stow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People fly Ryanair because it is very cheap if you play their game by their rules. If you don&#039;t then it costs a lot more to fly. It is a business model I don&#039;t like but everyone goes in with their eyes open, or they should. 

It&#039;s like parking on a meter five minutes over and getting a ticket. You know the rules. They may be petty, but you have to play the game to get the best deal otherwise you make a larger contribution to company profits. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People fly Ryanair because it is very cheap if you play their game by their rules. If you don&#8217;t then it costs a lot more to fly. It is a business model I don&#8217;t like but everyone goes in with their eyes open, or they should. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s like parking on a meter five minutes over and getting a ticket. You know the rules. They may be petty, but you have to play the game to get the best deal otherwise you make a larger contribution to company profits. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Lowe</title>
		<link>http://wallblog.co.uk/2012/09/07/ryanair-is-an-analogue-brand-in-a-digital-world-and-must-change/comment-page-1/#comment-32268</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Lowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice title - reminds me of one of Bartlett&#039;s lines about his opponent in the West Wing!

It&#039;s clear from Ryanair&#039;s incredible profits that they play by different commercial rules from other brands and it&#039;s instructive to think about why that is. 

The bottom line is that they do not operate within a normal, functioning market.

Of course, they did a huge amount to bring competition to the aviation sector when they first launched, but they are now using market dominance to erode the customer experience. 

Put simply, they don&#039;t care about 500K people hating them because, they don&#039;t have to. 

Something needs to change and I think Easyjet may have begun to recognise this and are changing their strategy. I wrote a bit more on this here if you&#039;re interested:

http://thirdcity.co.uk/blog/budget-wars-could-easyjet-outmanoeuvre-ryanair/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice title &#8211; reminds me of one of Bartlett&#8217;s lines about his opponent in the West Wing!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear from Ryanair&#8217;s incredible profits that they play by different commercial rules from other brands and it&#8217;s instructive to think about why that is. </p>
<p>The bottom line is that they do not operate within a normal, functioning market.</p>
<p>Of course, they did a huge amount to bring competition to the aviation sector when they first launched, but they are now using market dominance to erode the customer experience. </p>
<p>Put simply, they don&#8217;t care about 500K people hating them because, they don&#8217;t have to. </p>
<p>Something needs to change and I think Easyjet may have begun to recognise this and are changing their strategy. I wrote a bit more on this here if you&#8217;re interested:</p>
<p><a href="http://thirdcity.co.uk/blog/budget-wars-could-easyjet-outmanoeuvre-ryanair/" rel="nofollow">http://thirdcity.co.uk/blog/budget-wars-could-easyjet-outmanoeuvre-ryanair/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Clive Draper</title>
		<link>http://wallblog.co.uk/2012/09/07/ryanair-is-an-analogue-brand-in-a-digital-world-and-must-change/comment-page-1/#comment-32260</link>
		<dc:creator>Clive Draper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is wrong. Ryanair has the clearest marketing message of any airline: WE ARE THE CHEAPEST. As long as it sticks to this (and delivers the lowest prices), people will fly with them. Airlines are like the British railway system or the Tube: you do not have a choice (generally). i.e. if you want to get to [airport x] at [time y] then you hardly have loads of options! Ryanair would be mad to start engaging - this way it would lose its &#039;USP&#039; (i.e. we have one business focus: to be the cheapest) and become like all the other (more expensive - and generally less reliabale) airlines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is wrong. Ryanair has the clearest marketing message of any airline: WE ARE THE CHEAPEST. As long as it sticks to this (and delivers the lowest prices), people will fly with them. Airlines are like the British railway system or the Tube: you do not have a choice (generally). i.e. if you want to get to [airport x] at [time y] then you hardly have loads of options! Ryanair would be mad to start engaging &#8211; this way it would lose its &#8216;USP&#8217; (i.e. we have one business focus: to be the cheapest) and become like all the other (more expensive &#8211; and generally less reliabale) airlines.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Girdwood</title>
		<link>http://wallblog.co.uk/2012/09/07/ryanair-is-an-analogue-brand-in-a-digital-world-and-must-change/comment-page-1/#comment-32235</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Girdwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 14:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a complex situation but it&#039;s worth noting that in many cases the price difference between a &quot;no frills&quot; airline and many of the others is pretty small.

The risk Ryanair faces is that may be seen to make their money from &quot;gotcha&quot; catches. In fact, they may actually make their money from gotchas.

As the internet helps educate people to print their passes out in advance then Ryanair will make less money from less gotchas.

The education process, that in some cases the difference in price isn&#039;t there (before or after the gotcha charges), is the longer term risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a complex situation but it&#8217;s worth noting that in many cases the price difference between a &#8220;no frills&#8221; airline and many of the others is pretty small.</p>
<p>The risk Ryanair faces is that may be seen to make their money from &#8220;gotcha&#8221; catches. In fact, they may actually make their money from gotchas.</p>
<p>As the internet helps educate people to print their passes out in advance then Ryanair will make less money from less gotchas.</p>
<p>The education process, that in some cases the difference in price isn&#8217;t there (before or after the gotcha charges), is the longer term risk.</p>
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		<title>By: James murphy</title>
		<link>http://wallblog.co.uk/2012/09/07/ryanair-is-an-analogue-brand-in-a-digital-world-and-must-change/comment-page-1/#comment-32150</link>
		<dc:creator>James murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 16:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most profitable airline in the world and has been one of the top 3 for the past 10 yrs, in an industry with more failures and a general reputation for rip offs, high fees and poor customer service. Not sure how becoming a digital brand willl makr them any better than those air,ines who do engage with customers.
Look at thr flipside: klm offers 24hr service via twitter. Great. BUT, their tickets are more expensive, cant fly direct- have to fly via schiphol, high price business class but low quality food and amenties.
I thinkni prefer the analogue world.nat least they&#039;re honest about what they offer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most profitable airline in the world and has been one of the top 3 for the past 10 yrs, in an industry with more failures and a general reputation for rip offs, high fees and poor customer service. Not sure how becoming a digital brand willl makr them any better than those air,ines who do engage with customers.<br />
Look at thr flipside: klm offers 24hr service via twitter. Great. BUT, their tickets are more expensive, cant fly direct- have to fly via schiphol, high price business class but low quality food and amenties.<br />
I thinkni prefer the analogue world.nat least they&#8217;re honest about what they offer</p>
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		<title>By: Pete M</title>
		<link>http://wallblog.co.uk/2012/09/07/ryanair-is-an-analogue-brand-in-a-digital-world-and-must-change/comment-page-1/#comment-32139</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also have to disagree with this. 

Ryanair may have seen a recent dip in profits but they are also now the second biggest airline in Europe – a simply meteoric rise over the past few years. And all this despite a long-standing indifferent attitude towards customer care and an abject refusal to ‘engage’. How can this be?

Ryanair’s USP is it’s honesty of intention – people know that all airlines are ultimately out to scam them (BA, Virgin and others have all been involved in price fixing and similar dubious practices). Ryanair is refreshing because essentially it admits it. Ryanair’s customers know that they will get a cheap flight if they play the game. If they don’t , they will get shafted. It’s not about the airline being their best mate, or ‘joining the conversation’.

In essence what Ryanair have done is to turn air travel into a commodity. People don’t love commodity suppliers; they just look for the cheapest price.

As long as that remains the case then social media is indeed irrelevant to the brand. It is, they themselves put it: ‘a waste of time and money’.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also have to disagree with this. </p>
<p>Ryanair may have seen a recent dip in profits but they are also now the second biggest airline in Europe – a simply meteoric rise over the past few years. And all this despite a long-standing indifferent attitude towards customer care and an abject refusal to ‘engage’. How can this be?</p>
<p>Ryanair’s USP is it’s honesty of intention – people know that all airlines are ultimately out to scam them (BA, Virgin and others have all been involved in price fixing and similar dubious practices). Ryanair is refreshing because essentially it admits it. Ryanair’s customers know that they will get a cheap flight if they play the game. If they don’t , they will get shafted. It’s not about the airline being their best mate, or ‘joining the conversation’.</p>
<p>In essence what Ryanair have done is to turn air travel into a commodity. People don’t love commodity suppliers; they just look for the cheapest price.</p>
<p>As long as that remains the case then social media is indeed irrelevant to the brand. It is, they themselves put it: ‘a waste of time and money’.</p>
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		<title>By: WS</title>
		<link>http://wallblog.co.uk/2012/09/07/ryanair-is-an-analogue-brand-in-a-digital-world-and-must-change/comment-page-1/#comment-32138</link>
		<dc:creator>WS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m inclined to agree with Ed. If anything, &#039;horror stories&#039; like this reinforce Ryanair&#039;s reputation as a no-frills, low cost airline who&#039;ll give you the cheapest price so long as don&#039;t break any of their very well known rules. I doubt this episode will translate into declining sales.

Also worth noting, that Ryanair&#039;s drop in profits was as a result of an increase fuel prices - an issue which sometimes only affects one airline and not them all depending on how they buy their fuel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m inclined to agree with Ed. If anything, &#8216;horror stories&#8217; like this reinforce Ryanair&#8217;s reputation as a no-frills, low cost airline who&#8217;ll give you the cheapest price so long as don&#8217;t break any of their very well known rules. I doubt this episode will translate into declining sales.</p>
<p>Also worth noting, that Ryanair&#8217;s drop in profits was as a result of an increase fuel prices &#8211; an issue which sometimes only affects one airline and not them all depending on how they buy their fuel.</p>
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